Cameroun: Le président Paul Biya ordonne le retour de la connexion internet à Bamenda et autres localités anglophones

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FirstOctober1961   12017-04-23 06:50
#1
@Man Tara

"With this movement, your useless lazy "Dr's in PhD", have sealed your fate. The North west will remain one of the poorest regions in Cameroon"

You seem to be obsessed with people who have doctorate or PhD degrees. They are simply academic qualifications.
Don't you know that you could also have one of those qualifications if you wanted to? That is no big deal.

Fortunately the northwest is not a region of Cameroon, it is the Bamenda Province of Southern Cameroons.

"You will have to have to get to Kumba, Limbe, where you will be the forever "Come no go".
For ever"

Just like Old Man Tara is a conspicuous "come no go for ever" in the USA.

For your information, there is no town in Southern Cameroons known as Limbe. The name of that town you call Limbe is Victoria. La Republique has no right to change the names of our towns in Southern Cameroons. We will soon change the name back to Victoria.

A little bit of geography: Southern Cameroons has two provinces: Bamenda Province and Victoria Province.
Francophones are so stupid, one would think they have never studied geography or the cardinal points.
For God's sake, we studied and mastered the cardinal points in primary school.
How can you name three regions Northwest, Southwest and West, while both the Northwest and Southwest are to the west of the Western region? How stupid can you be? There is no way both the northwest and the southwest can be to the west of west.
La Republique does things without thinking. Just like they seceded from the union in 1984 without knowing by reverting to their pre-union name of La Republique du Cameroun.
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Man Tara   02017-04-22 23:10
#2
@FirstOctober1961
@Chesco002

"Southern Cameroons is not and has never been part of La Republique du Cameroun.
So you don't need Southern Cameroons in order to build your Cameroun."

With this movement, your useless lazy "Dr's in PhD", have sealed your fate. The North west will remain one of the poorest regions in Cameroon.
You have set yourselves up to depend only on the government.
Once us, civilians understand that development shall be in the hands of business, you'll see.
No one will come and invest among the hatemongers bamenda's, just waiting to call you names. Hate each other, hate everybody
You will have to have to get to Kumba, Limbe, where you will be the forever "Come no go".
For ever
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FirstOctober1961   12017-04-22 16:39
#3
@Toukari+[

"Malheureusement pour vous et ceux qui pensent comme vous, l'ancienne Republique Federale du Cameroun est indivisible. Son integrite territoriale sera respectee et ceci " BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY" pour reprendre les mots de Machiavel."

Time Will Tell - Bob Marley
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Marabout   12017-04-22 11:43
#4
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Konate   12017-04-22 10:32
#5
allez!!!! une marche de soutien et de remerciements à Biya est nécessaire svp. Nous, élites du Nord-ouest et du Sud-ouest allons l'organiser.
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Toukari+[   22017-04-22 02:23
#6
FirstOctober1961
"..Fortunately for us the union was never cosummated.."

Malheureusement pour vous et ceux qui pensent comme vous, l'ancienne Republique Federale du Cameroun est indivisible. Son integrite territoriale sera respectee et ceci " BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY" pour reprendre les mots de Machiavel.
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Mlk_do   12017-04-21 21:03
#7
"We in Southern Cameroons ..."
Ca se voit que les froggies ont contaminé certains rosbifs.
Les vrais fronteurs sont à Bamenda, Kumba ... et bavardent à peine.
J attends ma caricature.
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FirstOctober1961   142017-04-21 18:04
#8
@Chesco002

"@FirstOctober1961
OK sir. You can continue this debate with someone else

Your opinion counts"

You are not forced to comment on any post.
If you are not interested in debating, you are free to maintain your silence
or leave the this forum.

But what you are not free to do, is to tell me who to debate with.
That prerogative is mine and mine alone.

First rule of thumb: If you don't want your posts to be commented on, don't post!!!
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Chesco002   32017-04-21 17:38
#9
@FirstOctober1961

OK sir. You can continue this debate with someone else

Your opinion counts
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FirstOctober1961   132017-04-21 17:32
#10
@Chesco002

"I repeat that the construction of Cameroon is to be done by all of us. Apart from saying Biya and others have done NOTHING for CMR, what have you, as an individual, done at your micro level, which you can be proud of ?"

I am afraid you are confusing and mixing issues.

Southern Cameroons is not and has never been part of La Republique du Cameroun.
So you don't need Southern Cameroons in order to build your Cameroun.
Judge and evaluate the contributions of the citizens of La Republique in the building of La Republique
Francaise du Cameroun.
Stop making the error of including Southern Cameroons in your nation building venture.
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FirstOctober1961   152017-04-21 17:18
#11
Biya and La Republique can keep their internet.
We don't need or want it in Southern Cameroons.
We in Southern Cameroons will soon install our own internet.

Southern Cameroons cannot continue to live under the whims and caprices
of a senile gerontocracy.
Our grandparents committed a cardinal sin and fatal error by associating us with La Republique.
Fortunately for us the union was never consummated.
Therefore the so-called union with La Republique is NULL and VOID.

The sooner we expel the colonial administration and army of occupation
of La Republique from Southern Cameroons, the better for our people.

Nothing will stop us from restoring the independence of Southern Cameroons.
The independence train has already left the station and will soon get to its
destination: BUEA the capital of the Federal Republic of Southern Cameroons a.k.a AMBAZONIA
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Chesco00210    12017-04-21 17:04
#12
@Finesse

You are confusing me. I do not recognize myself in this:
``One minute you state we should not compare and the next you state we should compare``

``inept Biya and Govt``
This is your opinion

I repeat that the construction of Cameroon is to be done by all of us. Apart from saying Biya and others have done NOTHING for CMR, what have you, as an individual, done at your micro level, which you can be proud of ?
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Finesse   192017-04-21 14:40
#13
@ Chesco

You are contradicting your assertions. One minute you state we should not compare and the next you state we should compare. Typical of using it only when it suits you and not all. Open minded ? Tell that to the Government which has been in charge for 34 years. The NW and SW are demonstrating their open mindedness already.

I am glad you agree so much potential is dwindling under the watch of an inept Biya and Govt. We have gone past encouraging what is good to doing what is good, and that is exactly what the people are doing by taking their destiny away from a few individuals who have usurped them for 35 years. What is bad is individuals like you wrapped in a bubble that would soon burst !
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Chesco00221    162017-04-21 14:27
#14
@Finesse

Comparison is necessary to be open-minded and copy good examples where need be. Our potential is huge but poorly used, we all know that.

Let`s face our problems: corruption, tribalism, nepotism, etc but keeping in mind that not only the president and his ministeries have to change their managing ways, but also any single citizen living locally or abroad.

When saying that this and that is bad, we must be able to also recognize what is good and encourageable.
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Finesse16    302017-04-21 13:57
#15
@Chesco

Put some flesh to the bones of your assertions below.Do not compare Cameroon with USA , China , Russia etc. compare Cameroon with itself by evaluating the potential and results of its human resources and natural resources and you will accept we are on serious trouble in every sector in terms of results. You are completely missing the point with your comparisons. In fact you are deliberately evading the fundamentals.
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Chesco00223    232017-04-21 13:36
#16
@Finesse

I once said on this forum that the building of a nation is a continuous effort and struggle. Today we want to resemble developed countries like the usa, china, russia. Can you imagine that those nations were built during hundreds of years, through challenges, joy but permanent resilience.
Cameroon has problems we together we have to overcome them and move forward.
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Finesse19    272017-04-21 12:00
#17
@ chesco

" But on top of that the most important is the building of the nation. If part of the populations says ``am not concerned``, then who will build your own house for you to live in ?
As you said, dialogue n consensus are the key, and I believe they are ongoing."

For 50 odd years we have seen two nations merge with one systematically absorbed and assimilated by another. Where does the nation building start? The concept of nation building in inclusive. Nation building of 2 cultures is the provision of a society that flourishes under the shadow of a single authority, by balancing interests, multiplying associations, and giving the subject the restraint and support of a combined opinion. Not unity and uniformity, but diversity and harmony ought to reign in society.

Biya before becoming President was part of a commission with Abouem and Njeuma appointed to address the same issues he is today appointing Abouem to address ! Outright inertia !

Biya has been using the government apparatus and system to control the people. However when the will of the people are all aligned towards a common oppressor , then the government apparatus that once controlled the people becomes weak faced with collective resistance. Once the resistance continues for a sustained period, then the people gradually take control of their destiny. This is what is happening today with the NW and SW.

Deep down you know the truth but refuse the face it with realistic measures. The same mistake made when this struggle began with a teacher and lawyer grievance. Now it is beyond that , yet you are still refusing to smell the coffee.Keep your head in the sand!
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Nyambarindon   132017-04-21 11:55
#18
"un communiqué a été lu annonçant que le Chef de l’état a instruit le ministre des postes et télécommunications de faire rétablir la connexion internet" (sic)

Ainsi donc,Le président de la république du Cameroun aurait instruit le ministre des postes et télécommunications, d'instruire le Dg de camtel, d'aller instruire ses services techniques, d'aller rétablir la connexion internet.

-Et qui aurait instruit le président de la république?

-Parait-il que c'est le pape! Agissant sur hautes instructions de jésus-christ en personne...
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Chesco00218    182017-04-21 11:34
#19
Dear Colonelsapt

Internal problems exist in all countries and must be tackled together. Excesses can emerge and cause more trouble from any side

The army in CMR commited excesses like rape, killing, beating of the populations

On the other side the excesses were many as well: buring of markets and schools, preventing kids from going to school, burning of the national flag, etc

But on top of that the most important is the building of the nation. If part of the populations says ``am not concerned``, then who will build your own house for you to live in ?
As you said, dialogue n consensus are the key, and I believe they are ongoing.
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Finesse21    292017-04-21 10:52
#20
You have to respect the SW and NW. This is the only group of people who can make Biya make u-turns on Anglophone issues by creating a commission for Bilingualism , sending Esso and his cronies to accept concessions with Common Law proposals and restoration of internet services all within a few months. You have to respect and applaud the stance and resilience of the NW and SW. This is a Govt that has never respected any cries for change with so much speed . Even the Esseka incident which took so many more lives is buried and the commission report piled in Biya's office. Biya has managed to bury every national scandal and oppoition till now.. Biya has no respect for Cameroon , but the NW and SW is fishing him out of his comfort zone. All those Francophones who compared the Anglophone crisis to regional/tribal memorandums should now ask themselves if they got the panic responses from Biya. The difference is clear , NW and SW can exert national and international pressure to drive their cause and regional and tribal memorandums cannot. This is just the continuation of the struggle. He will keep signing decrees till he finally relinquishes all.
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Dibobe   132017-04-21 10:30
#21
À qui le mérite de cette decision?
- À Biya qui accorde une „grâce“?
- À l’ONU qui (enfin) en parle depuis environ 10 jrs?
- À Me A Kom qui a qualifié Biya et Minette Libom de sécessionistes?
- À Hollande, près à bousculer tout avant de dégager?
- Aux Bosniakwé qui ménacent de rejoindre les anglophones dans la grève?
- Au pape que Biya a rencontré il ya 1 mois?
- Au temps qui devenait lourd à supporter?
- À Kamto avec son coup de gueule à la communauté internationale?
- Aux „voyous“ du CODE qui empêchent au prince de bosser en paix en occident?
- À la vigoureuse qui a décrété lit mort si les anglos…
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Sergydukamer15    172017-04-21 10:18
#22
Il faut maintenant libérer les enfants d'autruit.
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Colonelsapt19    202017-04-21 10:03
#23
@chesco
I keep hearing this talk of African unity.
How do we Africans decide our fate, when the very talk about the future of our states sends pple to jail, cause the rape n molestation students, disconnection of internet to one of Africa's children(s Cameroons)
You do not forge Africa's destiny by rape n torture, but by dialogue n consensus.
My bros, stop supporting injustice in the name of pseudo African unity.
Who, for the past 93 days just committed a secessionist act.
Soyons quand meme serieux, papa.
Soit on veut forge un avenir avec egalite, spit on ne le veut pas. Qu'ont nous dit.
Et, ça se passe assis autour d'un table, et comme egaux. Si non, on a rien que des slogans.
*where apt, smile n correct my French.
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Bernardint18    92017-04-21 09:59
#24
Quelqu'un a-t-il des nouvelles de LENOIR ? J'espère qu'il va bien. Un malheur est si vite arrivé.

LENOIR, si tu me lis, pardon, réponds.
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Mbongochobi 23    192017-04-21 09:01
#25
Now that Dictator Kim Jung Biya has shamelessly re-installed internet in Southern Cameroons without the resumption of neither School, not the Lawyers going back to work , not weekly ghost towns abating, who had finally bowed down to the other ? Dictator Kim Jung Biya or Southern Cameroon ?

We are now waiting for the eminent release of Dr Nkongho Balla and all those arrested if not the struggle will be intensified with our internet connections now in place.

No 20th May events would take place in Southern Cameroons without the immediate and unconditional release of all those arrested by the tribal militia of DICTATOR KIM JUNG BIYA
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Chesco00230    222017-04-21 08:13
#26
@Colonelsapt
You did have no choice at all to become a separate country. During colonial period, countries like france, usa, england were simply dividing our territories and sharing between themselves as pieces of cakes.

Same was done everywhere in the world. Today cachemire is a problem between india and pakistan. Taiwan and hong kong are problems with china. Today they are trying to divide syria into pieces, still for their own interests

We Africans must think and act as ONE, in order to grab our true freedom from the west
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Bobolofiang17    42017-04-21 07:27
#27
Next, please!
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Colonelsapt18    272017-04-21 05:28
#28
Well, well!
It's good that internet is back. I, however, feel that the cost the country will pay is going to be enormous.
Everyone knows the financial losses that have accrued by businesses, not forgetting that telephone companies will pay less in taxes to the government as a result of the losses they themselves have incurred from this blackout.
I also feel that anglophones in have grown even more bitter, and this has only radicalised many more, cos this was proof to them that we are really two n divisible, contrary to some state initiated slogans.
Another set of grievances(including treatment of ub students and common law lawyers) and reasons for revandications (whether now or by next generation) has been incoded in the collective anglophone psyche.
If the govt of Cameroon wants to solve this once and for all, it is time to sit down for real dialogue, so we discuss what we are and we want to be.
I write as a very moderate anglophone who is being pushed to the other side by the actions of this government.
Anglophone are patriots. We , are the only Cameroonians who had choice to make about a country to belong to. We, chose to join LA republique di Cameroon.
We need to feel that we didn't make a wrong choice.
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Madiba 23    412017-04-21 04:10
#29
Where is Man Tara and the other psychopaths who are worshippers of Biya? I told you once in this forum that Anglophones are not cowards like you francophones who think a dictator like Biya can't be challenged. You once said the form of state is not negotiable hahahaha. Just wait and see. This is just the beginning. Useless assimilated people by france call francophones who can't question their own government.
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Anglofou Is Back22    182017-04-21 03:59
#30
Mes Chers Froggies Malhonettes,

My dear little COWARDS.

Votre petit cafard Paul Biya sera ecrase,

Petits rats palmistes alcolises.

YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET.

Our ground troops are mobilizing.

Always remember this:
WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW RESISTANCE BECOMES A DUTY.

I assure you:
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE FREE

A+

Anatype (Anglofou Atypique)
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE LIBERATED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
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Sabitou21    222017-04-21 03:52
#31
This is the first step towards the re-start of meaningful discussions. The following are still missing:
- Release of all those kidnapped
- Complete demilitarization of Southern Cameroon
- Guarantee return of all those who went on exile recently due to the current struggle
- Apologize to clergy for using a "ghost consortium of parents" to intimidate clergy
- Sanction all forces of law and order as well as administrators who have perpetrated brutality including killing of peaceful protesters since October 2016
- Compensate business for losses caused by the breach of contract by internet services providers
Meeting the above will pave way for the re-start of dialogue which should include a third party acting as a witness such as the UN, AU, EU or Vatican.
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StaystrongSC/Ambazonia28    252017-04-21 00:26
#32
Who cares about your fucking internet. Fuck you frenchee niggas.We the Southern Cameroonians/Ambazonians are moving full speed ahead with the restoration and independence of our territory with or without your fucking internet.
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Atangal26    522017-04-21 00:16
#33
Quand on veut couper, ça se décide en catimini au village, entre gangsters. Quand on rétablit, le tam-tam de Kim Jong Paul BIYA Android nous casse les oreilles avec le décret? Où est le décret de coupure?
Foutaises, il se trouve tout simplement que le Cameroun a déjà battu un triste record qui commençait à se propager dans le monde.
Comme le dictateur n'aime ce genre de publicité, il se voit contraint de jouer au magnanime mais il est évident que le CENER va mobiliser ses troupes pour épier le moindre murmure venant des anglos de la toile.
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Mengap27    522017-04-20 23:50
#34
"La coupure de la connexion internet au NW et SW est un acte de sécession"
Merci maître Alice NKOM, l'arroseur s'est retrouvé arrosé et qui croit prendre est pris en flagrance! Enfin ont-ils compris?
Les sanctions doivent tombées ? Les Camerounais les vrais en ont assez d'être écrasés de cette manière.
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Lericheamerifricain20    642017-04-20 21:50
#35
Il ne faut pas oublier d'indemniser les victimes de la coupure d'internet. Un collectif devrait etre constituer pour demander des indemnites pour le manque a gagner.
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Sacho20    792017-04-20 21:39
#36
- Condition 1 restore Internet: Done
- Condition 2 release all kidnapped : Pending
- Condition 3 restore dialogue with Leaders on the form of the state: Pending
The struggle continue. " La liberty ne se vend pas au marché!
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Le Gars D'Emana70    292017-04-20 20:54
#37
@Anglofoufou
Mouf chouan vous allez faire quoi? Vous vous amusez Biya coupe encore! Tu vas faire quoi? tu vas dire a qui? qui va venir t'aider? Vous avez pleurez vos mamans pour internet hahaha
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Chesco00280    362017-04-20 20:38
#38
Look at how you guys are insulting popol freely

It is called freedom of speech. Dictator?

Dictators are those who invade other nations, kill their populations and steal their natural resources. They are blair Obama Bush (son n dad) Cameron Merkel Sarkozy
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Le Gars D'Emana90    292017-04-20 20:34
#39
@Anglofoufou
Mouf chouan vous allez faire quoi? Vous vous amusez Biya coupe encore! Tu vas faire quoi? tu vas dire a qui? qui va venir t'aider? Vous avez pleurez vos mamans pour internet hahaha
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Sabitou26    512017-04-20 20:20
#40
Too late!
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Efouba Akam Sidonie35    702017-04-20 20:18
#41
Toi même tu as compris que coupure ou pas les gars continuent leur ghost town tranquillement et les cours n'ont pas repris.
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Masfao39    742017-04-20 20:00
#42
C'est donc bien prostate 1er qui avait instruit la coupure de la connexion internet aux localités dites "anglophones"!
Pathétique tyran!
Pauvre Cameroun!
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Anglofou Is Back38    662017-04-20 19:38
#43
Hahahahahahahahah..... Mes Chers Froggies Malhonettes,

VICTORY IS OURS.

Mbia Paul had no choice.

AFRINIC was about to suspend all IP addresses in The Cameroons, virtually bringing down internet services in all of The Cameroons.

I just came back from The Southern Cameroons where our ground troops are mobilizing.

YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET.

Always remember this:
WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW RESISTANCE BECOMES A DUTY.

I assure you:
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE FREE

A+

Anatype (Anglofou Atypique)
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE LIBERATED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
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Mbongochobi28    812017-04-20 19:37
#44
Dictator KIM JUNG BIYA and his gang has no other choice. They have to succumb to all of our demands. The re-connection of internet is just the first step. Others will soon follow

The proud people of Southern Cameroon can never and will never bow down to the dictates and will of Dictator KIM JUNG BIYA
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Cho De Chantou26    402017-04-20 19:34
#45
Ah oui... certainement les effets de la rencontre avec le Pape!!

Certains Médias á l´Étranger ont relaté que le Pape était la seule personne qui pouvait parler et que Paul Biya comprenne, car depuis 35 ans il n´écoute personne.

Espérement qu´il aitouvert ses oreilles le tour ci.
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L'Acteur24    972017-04-20 19:29
#46
Un bon manipulateur ce type. Quand il fallait couper internet, tout était fait en catimini, pas de communiqué. Maintenant pour le rétablissement de la connexion, tout est mis en oeuvre pour lui attribuer les honneurs. Alors que c'est lui même qui avait certainement ordonné à ses sbires de faire le sale boulot...
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Simus31    1542017-04-20 19:21
#47
Je n'ai jamais lu depuis là où on nous dit QUI avait ordonné la coupure d'Internet dans ces régions du pays. Meme dans tous les débats et tous les articles, on ne nous a jamais dit qui avait ordonné la coupure d'Internet. maintenant on vient nous annoncer en grande pompe que c'est le Chef de l'Etat qui a ordonné le rétablissement d'Internet? Suivant le parallélisme des formes, on comprend donc que c'est le chef de l'Etat qui avait ordonné la coupure d'Internet! Car n'a le pouvoir de rétablir que celui qui a le pouvoir de suspendre. Si ce n'est pas le cas, alors que le Chef de l'Etat sanctionne celui qui avait pris une décision si mauvaise. Par contre, si c'est le Chef de l'Etat qui avait ordonné la coupure d'internet en catiminie pour venir rétablir en grande pompe, je dis: Quelle lacheté! Quelle fourberie? Il suspend en cachette et n'assume pas, mais il rétablit en grande pompe et veut en récolter de la gloire.
N'est-ce pas on nous a dit que le gouvernement/régime ne cède jamais? Comme si le gouvernement/régime était le patron des populations. Au contraire, c'est le peuple qui est le patron du régime/gouvernement, et peut destituer le régime à tout moment, si celuici ne fait pas sa volonté.
Que les Camerounais et les Camerounaises en prennent de la graine. Nos frères d'expression anglaise nous ont montré le chemin. Nous pouvons renverser ce Régime mauvais sans violence et meme sans la moindre effusion de sang. Une désobéissance civile bien menée, bien organisée et jusqu'auboutiste vaincra ce Régime criminel sans problème, juste avec un peu de persévérance. Regardez seulement comment son chef est lache! Poltron et hypocrite il coupe Internet sans jamais l'assumer et revient des mois après instruire de rétablir comme ci ce n'est pas lui qui avait instruit de couper!
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Bih21    812017-04-20 19:20
#48
African Democracy, decrees by His royal highness!!
One man takes away the rights of 8million black people with a pen, same man reorders the rights of 8 million black people with a pen 93days later after international pressure, Who is celebrating?
We are waiting for the pan-Africanist Griots intellectuals to come and tells us why African democracy and unity can only be achieved through brutality and repression
Take a trip to Dubai and Quatar and see how leaders help their people build their nation instead of destroying them.
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Goodman15    962017-04-20 19:20
#49
La rupture entre toi et cette partie du Cameroun est consommée .. Cette coupure répondait à quoi ? Qu on ne connait pas ce qui s y passe ? L ONU a parlé et vite on exécute. Qui a dit qu'il s'en fout de la communauté internationale ?
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NYIANG22    952017-04-20 18:56
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The train has left the station. We have passed the stage where an individual will switch internet or other right on and off a like a radio set. We are now faced with a failed state in front of our very eyes. We shall be free at all cost.
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Camerinfo40    172017-04-20 18:48
#51
Enfin il été informé et à réagit
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Paul Biya P. R. C.
Au journal 17h de ce jeudi 20 avril 2017 sur la CRTV Radio, la chaîne du service public, un communiqué a été lu annonçant que le Chef de l'Etat a instruit le ministre des postes et télécommunications de faire rétablir la connexion internet au Nord-ouest et Sud-ouest
Au journal 17h de ce jeudi 20 avril 2017 sur la CRTV Radio, la chaîne du service public, un communiqué a été lu annonçant que le Chef de l'Etat a instruit le ministre des postes et télécommunications de faire rétablir la connexion internet au Nord-ouest et Sud-ouest, les deux régions anglophones du pays privées d'Internet depuis environ trois mois à cause des tensions sociopolitiques qui y règnent depuis six mois...
 
Nous y reviendrons!
Auteur:
Adeline ATANGANA
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